, with a press conference in Rome, we initiated the dispute health "We must stop them, they are destroying the Italian public health", together with the major trade unions of the leadership of the NHS (Anaa, CIMO, Aaro, FVM, FASSID, FESMED, Snabe, AUPI, SINAFO, FEDIR HEALTH ', SIDIRSS).
The Action Health will be divided in 2010 into a national day of action on January 19, two events at the inter-locked in Naples and Milan on February 4 February 16, and a national demonstration in Rome on March 9 indoors, which could become a parade with a strike if there are no answers. On our site www.fpcgil.it / medici.htm you can find the Document and the Press launch of the dispute. I invite you to give the widest possible dissemination of the initiatives to which we must be present in many, with our vision.
E 'resumed today all'Aran the negotiations for the renewal of employment contracts for executives on the medical and veterinary economic biennium 2008-2009 with submitting a first draft of part public , fairly generic, which was expunged from the party on disciplinary responsibility. However, were attached of "methodological lines" in disciplinary matters summarizing the provisions valid for the medical management - in Legislative Decree 150 of veterinary 2009 in implementation of Law 15/2009, the so-called reform Brunetta. Lines specify that the disciplinary system is "imperative " and can not be changed by agreement , which can only act on what types of sanctions and related offenses, and procedures "optional" conciliation. It should be noted in the text - as already reported by FP CGIL Medici - the wide discretion in imposing sanctions by managers and corporate office for disciplinary proceedings. On this theme will work on a technical committee 17 and 21 December.
is The FP CGIL Doctors reiterated serious doubts on the possibility of being able to appropriately adjust the rules in the contract specification required by the Minister Brunetta. However, he shared the technical course for the likelihood of being able to get any improvement , albeit with a final overall evaluation.
is E 'was confirmed the possibility of additional resources to the limit of 0.8% for innovative regional - waiting for the OK Economy - but within the constraints of public finance and in compliance with the Covenants for the health, than 3.2% already defined (279 € monthly gross) . The text does not address the issue instead of RIA.
is Another theme in the meeting was the possibility of inclusion of allowances of exclusivity in the wage bill. The FPCGIL Doctors reiterated that the appreciation of the benefits of exclusivity must be obtained with contractual funds and where it came to its inclusion in the wage bill needs to be strengthened with guarantee that an item does not become altered unless for its percentage increase , to safeguard the political significance of the choice to work only for the public health the FPCGIL Doctors always feels good.
is an ambiguous and dangerous point is the reformulation of the possibility of exceeding the working time of 38 hours due to the achievement of targets "assigned". The danger is always to pass the concept of the minimum, a situation unacceptable. The FPCGIL Doctors then stressed the serious gap in the text does not address the issue of insecurity .
is In draft is provided for the integration of ex-Article 5 (Regional Coordination) adding additional guarantees for the completion of company-level bargaining defining any substitute at the regional level in case of defaulting companies.
is process is expected to approach the different position of minimum wages contract between professional and managerial positions , as required by FPCGIL Medici.
is In the text of the contract will be implemented then the Commission's report on insurance, which improves coverage for civil liability .
is Among other subjects to be covered have been included increasing the ready availability of compensation and the variable profit company for settlement purposes. The next meeting was set for December 21, 2009.
Declaration Fabrizio Fratini, national secretary FPCGIL and Massimo Cozza, national secretary FPCGIL Doctors
staff is not penalized by the reasonable new pact on health
The reasonable solution of the new Health Pact - adapting the financing of national health service, though still underestimated compared to reality - can not and should not be a penalty for the staff.
If it can be shared parts of the country in a reduction in hospital beds, this can only happen to the issues of retraining and upgrading the context of the territory. For this reason it is unacceptable a priori reduction of stable staffing. If so it would be a mere reduction of benefits payable to the citizens.
Even more serious is the commitment to a consequent reduction in funding for bargaining, assuming that the resources of productivity and earnings of pension for those who leave the work to be assets of the funds might be diverted into the coffers of personal business.
It 'just the goal of streamlining and reduction waste in health care but it seems unreasonable to cut anyway, since staff. And this is even more inappropriate in the face of the OECD figures released yesterday that put the Italian health care costs below the average of industrialized countries.
Even with this Covenant, but with the elements of appreciable improvement over the original proposals, women and men of the National Health Service continues to be perceived as an expense, as a burden.
more reasons for the general mobilization for the next strike on December 11 that will see the whole show together with FLC CGIL FP CGIL.
We communicate following the methods of implementation manifestations of public workers during the general strike called by the CGIL FP for 11 December 2009.
NORTHERN ITALY - Milan Parade: 9:00 am concentration in Porta Venezia, in Piazza Fontana arrival at the confluence of the workers in the following regions: Lombardy
CENTRAL ITALY - Parade in Rome : concentration hours 9:00 at the Republic Square and arrive in Piazza del Popolo, where the workers will feed the following regions:
SOUTH ITALY - Naples Parade: 9:00 am to concentration Square Trento e Trieste, arriving at Piazza del Gesu Nuovo, where the workers will feed the following regions:
CAMPANIA, PUGLIA , Basilicata, CALABRIA, SICILY
a further memorandum we will communicate the objectives participation, which will be discussed at the meeting of leaders of organization to be held this afternoon in Rome.
Fraternal greetings.
The Organization Department Coordinator FP CGIL Daniela Livi
Ministerial Circular on the Prohibition of immigrants reporting
Interior Ministry DEPARTMENT 'FREEDOMS and Immigration
Prot No 780/A7
Rome, 27 November 2009
CIRCULAR No 12/09
They Locations For Your Excellency Mr. Al Government Commissioner for the Province of Trento Mr. Al Government Commissioner for the Province of Bolzano At Mr. President of the Regional Government of Valle d'Aosta Aosta
and PC: The Department of Public Safety at
Subject: Health care for foreigners not enrolled in the National Health Service. Ban on reporting of foreigners who do not comply with the rules of living. Subsistence.
E ' department was asked to provide clarification on the current ban on reporting of the foreign authority in accordance with the rules on residence seeking assistance at the facilities of the NHS, following the entry into force of the law on July 15 2009, No. 94, which introduced a number of changes to immigration rules.
The ban on reporting is provided for in paragraph 5 of Article 35 of Legislative Decree 25 July 1998, No 286. This provision was not repealed nor amended by Act July 15, 2009, No 94; thus possible to keep full validity.
consequences continue to be applied to the doctors and staff working in healthcare facilities, the prohibition to report to the authorities of illegal aliens in the territory of the State requesting access to health care, unless expressly provided for in paragraph 5, of ' Article 35 cited above., where the staff is obliged to the same report, under Article 365 of the Penal Code, on an equal footing with Italian citizens.
The obligation to report, as is known, is governed by Article 365 of the Criminal Code and occurs in case of crimes for which they must carry out an official. This requirement, in particular, there for the crime of illegal entry and residence within the state, introduced by Article 1, paragraph 16 of Law No 94,., Given the nature of the breach and not a crime. Moreover, Article 2 of that Article 365 expressly excludes the obligation to report when the report itself would expose the medium to criminal prosecution. Finally, it should clarify, in light of the changes introduced in Article 1, paragraph 22, letter g) of Act No. 94 cited above, concerning the presentation of the documents relating to the living room to access the performance of public administration, which is not required to show these documents to the benefits under Article. 35 cit, as expressly provided for in Article 6, paragraph 2, of Legislative Decree No 286/1998, cited above, as amended. You Please take the appropriate steps under local councils for immigration in order to resolve any doubts as to interpretation on the rules applicable to the matter.
Works Impact on Doctors Decree Brunetta. Aran negotiations postponed to December 10
first notes on the effects of Decree 150/09 on the medical management - Veterinary and STPA
Ripubblicizzazione employment
Operation of the Minister Brunetta - Law 15/2009 and Legislative Decree 150/2009 - endorsed by the Berlusconi government, increases the mixing of politics and poor management of health, to the detriment of citizens and health professionals, from the leaders of the National Health Service.
The constitutional autonomy of the regions in the management and organization has not prevented it to fall even in adverse public health principles and standards of the Reformation unfair Brunetta.
The primacy of politics legificazione returns with the employment relationship, with the reappearance of laws, regulations and sneaky, to promote functional and hit some more.
Exclusion from destruction only of the medical director of the complex structure, contained in a paragraph of a law, it is only a small appetizer.
In short, the policy will decide the remuneration, evaluation and career and discretionary disciplinary punishment and not challengeable by contract.
And the primacy of politics has also been recognized with the elimination of the rule in 165/2001 allowed the contracts to intervene, even with amendments, laws which set up rules of employment. It
ripubblicizza the employment relationship and de-commissioning., With the goal to silence the unions, and with a contradiction between a centralisno federalism practiced and preached.
Finally, of course, any reform is absolutely no cost, other than to reward merit. There are no resources, and enhancement of the credit is reversed in curtailment for the other economic leaders. All with some doubt of constitutionality.
Rating
All decisions by centralizing the evaluation process part of a national commission, nominated by the same Minister Brunetta, with the approval of Parliament, the which must be met by agencies "independent" assessment of performance ever nominated by political and administrative leadership. Other than independence (the Sole 24 Ore on the assessment titled "The ball policy remains ").
Even the leaders of the NHS, the principle of the three bands on and a main portion of the resources devoted to salary enhancement should be linked to individual performance, to be given to those who are within the range of high merit.
And the teamwork?
It is also the excellence of the annual bonus to be allocated to no more than 5% of staff, management or otherwise, which is located in the band on top, with the amount determined by bargaining. Each health authority and hospital will also establish the annual prize for innovation with a value equal to the amount of annual bonus award of excellence for each employee. ll all using the resources already available for bargaining.
The assessment system is entrusted entirely to the company, built with the logic of exclusion, with the intent to punish rather than to motivate staff to work better.
Never in the decree a passage or element from which derive a participatory and inclusive of the management processes and organizational processes.
Transparency
Good transparency meant as accessibility total. Too bad that does not seem to apply to university professors and to professional fees arising from intramural.
Leadership
The management is intended more as a person who controls and sanctions, for fear of being penalized in turn, rather than as a subject acting to produce improvements in service.
curiosity and then the lack of consequences for the management of the political-administrative staff if something does not work: the penalties seem to fall just fall on the leaders.
The negotiating structure - based on only four areas of management throughout the public sector, each of which must contain more than one category, now regulated by specific collective agreements - in fact make it harder to entering into new contracts. It 'still the possibility of setting up a special section of the contractual management of health care within one of four areas of management.
Bargaining
Article 1 of Law 15 provides a generalized system of exemptions from the contracts by national laws and regional , regulations and statutes. The policy can be defined as measures for groups of managers, on which contracts can no longer intervene. The exceptions to become law system reflects the triumph of political patronage.
While in private contracts may derogate from the law, the public is just the opposite.
The contract every three years, both for the economic regulation.
is terminated by law all supplementary contracts "in force" (with an unlawful retroactive): if you do not comply with the rules and regulations of the reform Brunetta are no longer applicable as from 2011 (far out, like others, by principles of delegation).
60 days after the Government may provide financial unilaterally the proposed increases, subject to compensation at the inception of the National Collective Bargaining Agreement.
In the case of negative certification of the Court of Auditors may not be the final signing of the proposed agreement.
Regions can allocate additional resources to the bargaining within the limits established by national bargaining and the parameters set for the virtuosity of personnel expenditure.
In the absence of agreement the companies act unilaterally decentralized bargaining with self-definition of substantial shares of remuneration as well as to all matters covered by the no agreement. And 'This is the method that will increase the effectiveness of public health?
There is an order of the intervention on work. Determinations for the organization of services and measures concerning the management of labor relations, management of human resources, the grant and revocation of management positions are taken exclusively by the company and executive powers, subject to only information to trade unions.
Crashes the system of representation, pending review of Arre leadership, without which the law providing for the 15. The data of 31 December 2006 will be valid for the period 2010 -2012 (6 year moratorium ).
Disease
The desire centralized regulatory and proved with the rule of Decree 150 which places the power to grant one or more " hours of air "in case of illness in the exclusive competence of the Minister Brunetta
Disciplinary
The law also acts on the disciplinary system, removing for much of the bargaining, which can operate only to tighten the sanctions that have been identified. Bargaining, in fact, may not establish procedures for appeal of disciplinary action
There is only the power to regulate by contract the procedures for conciliation is not mandatory within 30 days "before the imposition of the penalty ", but outside of Cases in which service is provided disciplinary sanction of dismissal. In spite of Article 7 of the Statute of Workers (" The rules relating to disciplinary sanctions ... have to apply what is set out in agreements and contracts of employment where there .)
The manager with the executive grade when reports of wrongful conduct "without delay " dispute the charge if it is punishable by less than the suspension from duty without pay for more than 10 days.
Every company establishing the office responsible for disciplinary action And the disciplinary proceedings are continued and concluded on slopes of any criminal proceedings. In more severe cases, however, may be discontinued.
result is a "judicial" ad hoc for civil servants, formed exclusively by the same employer, with the primacy of discretion and the ability to fire without the "appeal".
Some cases of disciplinary dismissal:
false statement to the presence
false medical certificate, or falsely certifying a disease state (for both employee and physician to 5 years imprisonment and a fine ranging from 400 to 1,600 euro), if sentenced disbarred
absence for 3 days in 2 years without reasonable justification, or more than 7 days in 10 years, or failing to return to service within the limits set by the administration, after truancy
unjustified rejecting it for reasons provided by the service needs
recurrence in the work of a serious offense, however, detrimental to the honor and personal dignity of others
recurrence of non reporting requirements by electronic means of INPS medical certification on sick leave.
Conclusions
We're gonna fight, with consistency, to win back a contract that space with the order you want to compress, with the knowledge that the criminalization of labor is a positive value for the quality of government, which should not be subjected to policy by acting in a discretionary manner. We want to measure the efficiency and effectiveness on the public agenda.
We are not available to anything that smacks of discretion and authoritarian intervention. Contrast, finally, an attempt to greater intrusion of bad policy in the management of health, a very different thing from the right and necessary to intervene in the choices of good policy guidance, planning and financing.
The effect of yesterday's decree 150/09, which implements the so-called reform Brunetta, determines new harassment as physicians, veterinarians and leaders of the national health service, despite the limitations of regional autonomy in health . It 's just a matter of time. The
rilegificazione employment puts in the hands of the government - through the rules laid down in an authoritarian manner and not modified in the contract - basic choices for the running of the service assessments, for careers and salaries of medical directors, making even closer relationship between politics and management in public health.
Decide exclusive company, the only information the unions if required, the organization of services and measures concerning the management of labor relations.
bodies "independent" for the assessment of performance and remuneration shall be appointed by the same system-area company that decides the criteria. Most of the pay of any result shall be allocated by law to the individual premiums for those who are within the range of about higher than the three to be established, however, when health care is a winning team work. And the resources for the various awards and bonus pay are taken out of the other doctors. The companies may
decide if there is no agreement with the union, each subject regulatory and economic bargaining still left.
The logic is, however, authoritarian and punishing its peak in the articles, written in a minute, on a variety of disciplinary sanctions and tightened: suspension without pay, dismissal, imprisonment and fines. A real arbitrary code can not be challenged by contract in spite of the Workers' Statute.
And the medical directors are doubly targeted: punished and dismissed for their "misconduct" is not whether oversee those of other operators.
So wrong.
E ' fair assessment, sanction and reward, but the goal is better functioning of the health service. And this is done by sharing and participation of those who work, taking into consideration the citizens' opinion. Not using the stick or pointing a gun.
Scrap medical care, the Government recognizes the mistake, better late than never
Declaration Massimo Cozza, national secretary FP CGIL Doctors
This morning's meeting between the Trade Unions medical management of the NHS and with the Minister of Labour, Health and Welfare Maurizio Sacconi and the Head of Department for Public Cons. Antonio Naddeo - convened by the same Sacconi under commitments made with the Trade Unions on October 23 - has been acknowledged by representatives of the Government that the rule of destruction was a mistake.
Better late than never.
This time it was not the only concerns already voiced by Minister Sacconi, but, together with the Head of Cabinet of Minister Brunetta has been shared the goal tending of zeroing of the effects of legislation that allows hospitals and health must be taken early retirement and unilaterally physicians with 40 years of contributions, including the years for redemption.
Waiting for an urgent and necessary by law for the annulment of the destruction, we considered of little value, a further ministerial circular, is not binding with respect to regional autonomy in health, in the presence of a law.
Instead, we shared the need for an agreement to be signed by the Ministers concerned, and Sacconi Brunetta, and the Conference of Regions, Asst Enrico Rossi, to be its final approval at the next Conference of State on November 12, 2009.
E 'was then prepared a draft agreement in which conditions the possibility of scrapping the prior adoption of regional measures, taken with the comparison with the Trade Unions, which would restrict the exercise thereof and in certain specific situations.
The draft must also be approved by the regions, but absent in touch today with the Minister Sacconi during the meeting. Otherwise
to stop the destruction of doctors under way in many companies, the government can only intervene with a law, a tool already used by a single executive to enforce it with the confidence of Parliament.
blame game between the Government, Parliament and regional ministerial circulars or ineffective, will not be accepted by doctors and will yield further discomfort and greater aggravation of the class.
Care companions and dear friends, you point out the good news that the site Aran has been an interesting section with questions and answers on various aspects of the management contract medical-veterinary medicine. Essentially along the lines of what is on our site with the valuable and important work of the Holy Buonanno. To open the page you need to go on www.aranagenzia.it then on the left column click on "Areas of management", the page that opens at the top right must then click on "Questions", then click on the arrow before " Health "then the arrow before the" Executives ".
The bad news is a Ansa note of November 2: Brunetta has decided to extend the availability to seven hours' of civil servants in the disease. The new tax bands should be open to visitors from 9.00 am to 13.00 am and from 15.00 to 18.00 in the afternoon. The new measure is part of the Legislative Decree implementing Law 15 of 2009, which will be 'published Saturday in the Official Gazette and shall come' in force in the middle 'in November. The measure, in fact, 'the holder of the public administration the power to decide on timing of availability.
The other news' included in the decree concerning the obligation sending medical certificates electronically, sent directly to the doctor or health care facility INPS public. The system will start 'immediately, said it ilministro, even if it' will be a transition period during which you can 'use of both the mechanism and the hard copy online.
Please submit two reports to all our business leaders.
Meeting of Trade Unions Executives of the Veterinary Medical and Leadership SPTA with the Regional Director General of Health.
Care companions and dear friends,
was held on October 12 a meeting frail OO.SS. Executives of the Veterinary Medical and Leadership SPTA with Director General of the Regional Healthcare, which has led the definition of agreement on many points.
Operation "transparency"
On this requirement, under Law No 69/2009, for the government to "publish on its website wages, curriculum vitae, the e-mail addresses and phone numbers for professional use " of its leaders, Dr. Demicheli has pledged to send the ASR a note that specifies the following points:
1) the task of entering data into the appropriate card is for the salary of the management companies;
2) which, between the entries salary falls under the "fixed" as in "variables" and which in the "other" in order to homogenize the behavior of firms and comparable salary data throughout the region;
3) are excluded from these data, revenue from freelance activity, as specified by the Ministry, which speaks of entering items "contractual"
4) days of absence should be excluded from the days of hours of recovery excess of normal working hours and unpaid;
5) are also included data on the "hyper-presence ' managers (eg holidays "work" and not recovered and / or time in excess of normal service hours and not recovered for service requirements);
6) the opportunity for companies to identify a person responsible for processing of such data, which then refer.
Transfers of new hires
Even on this issue, Dr. Demicheli has pledged to send a note specifying the companies as the norm introduced by the 2006 Budget on the transfers of new hires (" The winners must remain in its first destination for a period not less than five years. This provision is non-derogable under collective agreements ") does not apply to the ASL / ASO of the NHS, as clarified by the Ministry of Public Opinion with No 3 of 10.03.2006.
pandemic H1N1
on this issue has been reiterated by the clinical point of view seems to follow that influence the behavior of the influences of recent years. Despite this the region, we are told, has been adjusted "Plans pandemic" has made arrangements with general practitioners and those of continuity of care to ensure higher territory, is preparing plans to undertake a mass vaccination with a strengthening of local services.
On all these issues, or even during the current week, or at least during the next week, should be issued by the Department directives.
Reduced outpatient waiting times
Given the extraordinary project to reduce waiting times for specialist outpatient services and diagnostic imaging, referred to the DGR 12-12279 of 05.10.2009, was signed today a statement of understanding between trade unions of Department leadership and, in all respects similar to that made by trade unions September 10th Fund.
Today's agreement provides that to achieve the regional targets for reducing waiting times (for which the region has allocated € 4.25 million in 2009-2010), companies can, for a limited period of six months, seek programming tools to work overtime, where instruments are not effective in achieving common goals.
These powerful tools can be activated at the enterprise level only after confrontation with the unions and will:
a) provide for the use of with additional benefits laid down by the National Collective Bargaining Agreement and the regional agreements;
b) not be in conflict or adverse effect on the normal organization of work;
I am attaching our proposals for the National Collective Bargaining Agreement 2008 - 2009 areas of veterinary and medical management STPA, already discussed and shared in the national executives of the joint medical management - and veterinary STPA Oct. 6. I invite you to give the widest possible dissemination within our members and more generally among all medical and veterinary officers concerned. The text is also online on our website ( www.fpcgil.it / medici.htm ) where you can send e-mail evaluations.
In the coming days will continue the meetings of the Inter-medical - which should extend also to the medical convention and the leadership of the NHS - to define the basic document of the "Action health." You should keep in mid-November (Maybe 11) a day of meetings with health and leaflets in hospitals and community services at the end of November (maybe 24) a manifestation of inter-Naples (with a confluence of Calabria, Puglia, Basilicata and Sicily), in mid-December (perhaps 17 ) an inter-event in Rome (with the confluence of Tuscany, Abruzzo, Molise, Umbria and Sardinia), in mid-January he should keep the third interregional event in Milan, and finally at the end of February to March is expected to hold a large national demonstration in Rome . I will let you know soon as there is certainty.
after the opening of December 22, 2008, spent about nine months, has now reopened to ' Aran negotiations to renew the contract of employment for management doctor - Veterinary and SPTA on the economic biennium 2008 -2009.
The Aran has shown a willingness to re-examined with the Committee of Industry (regions) in the Act to address the markings they had seen the opposition of trade unions He then quantified the expected increases of 3.2% in a monthly gross of about 179 € for the medical management and Veterinary and about 152 € for the SPTA leadership with effect from January 1, 2009 (with a holiday allowance contract through 2008 of approximately € 291 gross for medical and veterinary purposes, and about 250 for leadership SPTA)
all unitarily The Trade Unions have called for the continuation of negotiations to address three questions first:
1) Leave the RIA (individual salaries of Seniority) of executives who leave the service position in the availability of funds, without any diversion - as contained in the address - on the outcome with certainty and without penalties for pensions and liquidations.
2) Having the availability at regional level by a further 0.8% in productivity, as already defined in the agreement of the health sector.
3) Return the subject of disciplinary action to the next contract, in consideration of the next issue of the decree Brunetta that will address this issue, starting in 2010.
The Aran herald in reconvening the discussion table in about three weeks, took note of the observations made, said the need to face the issues highlighted by the trade unions with the Committee of the Department.
will keep you informed on the progress of negotiations.
Fabrizio Fratini National Secretary FP CGIL
Massimo Cozza Health Secretary FP CGIL Nazionale Medici
watchmen under free-lance at the Hospital of Turin Molinette
Care companions and dear friends,
on the press reports in recent days appeared in the pages of Turin "The Republic" and for the next test at the hospital in Turin Molinette shift night watchman at the emergency room on Saturday night paid under a free-lance activities (€ 480.00 in turns), it states:
during a meeting of trade unions with the Executive Management held last August 3 and focused on the reorganization of the guards inside the hospital in Turin, our organization, along with other unions, has applied for, considering the high number of hours in excess of many colleagues from different disciplines , you can turn to art. 18 of the Negotiable 11.03.2005 (can pay up to 12% of the watchmen with rates of € 480.00 gross in turn in case of need for institutional services);
faced with a lack of responses institutions on these issues, there was informal communication from the Direction General that it has acted against the Regional Health because this would guarantee to cover the funds needed to begin as required by the trade unions on guard.
It confirms the interest of our Trade Union on issues related workloads of all my colleagues in various disciplines and specialties as well as the possibility that all the facilities that have excess hours may be affected by more favorable contractual arrangements.
Draft proposals for the 2008 -2009 contract management medical and STPA
Care companions and dear friends, I send
with the announced draft proposals for the contract covers the period 2008 -2009 the leadership Medical - Veterinary and STPA for which you should restart the negotiating table all'Aran in October. These proposals follow the lines already carried out in a unified manner for the health sector with the specific elements of the leadership of the NHS. I invite you to promote over the next twenty a discussion of the draft day with our union representatives and members of our management and medical-veterinary STPA and submit any proposed change to the email medici@fpcgil.it , in order to arrive at a proposal in the context of shared national executives relatives of physicians, veterinarians and the leadership STPA, already called for October 6 pv ..(...).
